DAVAO CITY, Philippines – Mayor Rodrigo Duterte said the government made a mistake when it purchased a used F-16 fighter jets on the grounds that these would not be of much help in securing the nation against aggressors like China.
“The decision to buy F-16s is really a blunder. How would it help?” he said.
He said the F-16s were multirole jet fighters manufactured in 1976 and were no match for China’s air power.
Duterte said the government ought to have purchased gunboats rather because these “are quick and versatile and can be sent all over the place.”
“Gunboats have a firepower capability as well,” he included.
The Armed Forces of the Philippines has said it has acquired an F-16Vs as part of its modernization plans.
Philippine Air Force pilots who trained on the Korean-made FA-50s will be able to fly the F-16s, described as the latest in its class, beginning next year.
See also: Philippines Acquisition of F16-V Fighter Jet from the US, Blocked by China
Indeed, even with the push to modernize the military, Duterte said the Philippines can’t go to war with China over disputed territories in the South China Sea.
“We cannot go to war, we cannot fight China,” he said.
He said there was a better chance of resolving the escalating conflict through diplomacy.
He reiterated his earlier statement that the United States could not be relied upon to defend the Philippines if an armed confrontation developed with China.
“America will not die for us,” Duterte said, pointing out the US did not lift a finger when China was building structures recently on the disputed islands.
“Now they’re there. [The US] allowed them to be finished,” he said. -Jason E.
Well, I disagree with him because F-16 is constantly upgraded and it is better to have this aircraft than have nothing at all.
Hindi mo naintindihan yung sinabi ni digong. Bago tayo bumili ng F16 dapat gunboat muna walang sinabi si digong na wag natayong bumili ng F16. Ang gunboats kasi ang pinaka need natin ngayon dahil napapalibutan tayo ng karagatan. Bakit nakukuha ng china yung mga sakop natin, kasi wala tayong capacity na batayan yung karagatan natin dahil kulang tayo sa gunboats. Kita mo naman yung kumukuha at sumisira ng kayamanan natin sa dagat taiwan at chinese, himbis na mga pilipino ang makikinabang sa yaman dagat natin. Hindi pa tayo para sa gyera vs china ang F16 pang gyera lang yan, kaya himbis na hinamon natin ang china kausapin natin sa tamang proseso.
Ano ba mas mainam to patrol and defend our parameter? Gunboat or F16?
Mas mainam ang F16 Kasi its an aircraft. Bakit sa tingin mo may aircraft carriers ang super powers? Cause whoever controls the skies controls the battlefield.
Quote Yan Ng mga decorated. And best generals of the US Military.
Hindi alam ni duterte ang pinagsasasabi nya. Akala lng nya marunong sya pero tanga Lang ang two na nagiisip na mas kelangan ang gunboats kesa sa fighter planes. Lmfao pathetic
Gun boats are sitting ducks to fighter bomber planes. The biggest battle ships during WWII the Yamato and the Mushashi were all sunk by fighter bombers. F 16 is no match to Chinese jet fighters were did Duterte got that idea from Chinese komik books!
Ka Digong is a commie remember!
you’re retarded. read my comment again then decide whether or not i was against F16s.
Dude, consider logistics. Wala pa tayo masyadong, ASM, Forward Operating Base at 1 squadron is an expensive pawn against a fleet.
Dude you’re missing the point. When a government decides to modernize their military logistics is included. Ang military ng kahit anong bansa alam nila na walang kwenta ang weapons ng walang bala. So yeah ASM is included with the F16s and operating base? dude are you kidding me? The spratly’s islands are right next to the Philippines so pinas don’t need FOBs. 1 squadron 12 F16s is indeed expensive true. almost $400 million.
But since the US is giving us a LOAN to modernize the Pinas’ military for credible defense posture, the pinas does have money.
Ano yun? porket mahal hindi na bibili? anong gagawin mo sa pera mong iniipon kung hindi mo gagamitin sa mga kelangan ng bansa para maipagtanggol ang sarili?
so mag gawa ang philippines ng runway sa spratly para sa F16 mo???? walang otak talaga itong si pinoy.. so gagayahin natin ang china na nag gawa ng air base do on… may pera ba tayo??? walang kalabanlaban tayo sa china… useless lang yan.. deplomAtic solution ang kailangan… pero kong gagamitin yan sa mga terorista sa mindanao, mas realistic pang isipin.. hindi para sa china…. tatawa lang yong mga inchik tatlong f16????? hahaha …
isa pa ilang f16 ba yong binili??? 1000??? kahit 1 thousan na f16 payan hindi parin tayo maka dominate sa china nterms sa kanilang warfare.. pero nterms sa ground troops malamang mas xperience tayo dya an at lamang tayo kasi base sa 50 years na gera sa mindanao mas may experience ang ating mga army kay sa china.. so bo bo talaga itong si panot.. at yong mga naniwala na air defens kailangan natin… kaya sabi ni duterte mas ok if warboats kasi maka deploy at patrol tayo ng taohan para mag defens sa teritory..
first of all hindi ko F16s yan. sa inyo yan. I may be Filipino but I’m American. I do not need any puny F16s cause I got F22 Raptors and F18s ok? Good.
Now hindi na kelangan gumawa ng runway sa spratly islands kasi sa palawan palang pwede ng gumawa ng runway e. aabot yung F16s sa spratlys islands. Chaka hindi nga makapasok ang pinoy sa spratlys diba? Isip lang ha? wag tumulad kay duterte na wlang Otak (lol utak spelling nun).
So sabi mo at ni duterte na useless ang fighter planes? iho/iha fighter planes ang nagpa lubog ng entire japanese fleet in pacific nung world war 2. And it has been proven that air superiority is far more powerful than any gunboats. Deterrent ang fighter planes while ang gunboats walang magagawa yan.
At ang sinasabi mong diplomacy? LOL Tanga ba kayo ni duterte? (ay oo nga pala tanga nga pala kayo ni duterte sorry nakalimutan ko)
Ilang YEARS na tayong nakikipag negotiate at communicate sa China about territorial disputes? tinake up pa nga natin yan sa UN diba? tinanggihan lang ng china. DUN PALANG dapat na gets mo na na ayaw ng china ang diplomacy kasi naniniwala sila na sa kanila ang area na yun. hindi nyo naisip ni duterte yun no? tanga lang kasi e tsk tsk tsk
1 squadron is 12 F16s. 3 F16s are enough to blow up 3 bases or an entire fleet of frigates, battleships, destroyers.
Sa tingin mo mas experiensado ang mga pinoy sa gera dahil sa conflict sa mindanao? magisip ka muna. mas experiensado ang mga chinese kasi wala pang pilipinas hindi pa dumadayo si magellan sa pinas gumegera na ang mga chinese. sila din ang nagsulat ng art of war na inadopt nila hitler, hirohito, McArthur, Patton, Chesty, at iba pang decorated US military generals. Chaka sad to say pero ang bobobo ng mga sundalo pinas pag dating sa tactics and strategies. truth hurts but it’s still true.
“sabi ni duterte sabi ni duterte” puro kayo ganyan e. bakit pag sinabi ba sayo ni duterte na mas mainam na magpakang kang yung nanay mo kay duterte kasi sasagana buhay nyo oo O ka na lang? kasi sinabi ng idol mong si duterte kaya maniniwala ka kahit hindi nya alam pinagsasasbi nya? ano ka aso? sunod sa amo? lol pathetic
mag deploy ng tauhan san!? sa dagat? pano ka mag dedeploy ng tauhan sa dagat? nasa gunboat parin sila? lol ok explain mo ko sayo ha SANA maintindihan ng NAPAKA liit mong utak hahaha.
dagat, spratly’s island. Chinese coast guard has frigates, destroyers, battleships, submarines. Filipinos did not buy F16s but instead bought GUNBOATS (ooooo gunboats takot ako) dineploy ng pinas ang gunboats sa spratly’s para ipagtanggol ang teritoryo nito. ang KASO mas advanced ang battleships ng china at mas madami kaya na block sila at hindi makadaan. ngayon china at pinas nag titinginan sa isat isa nag hihintay kung sino ang unang magpapaputok kasi kung sino man ang unang magpa putok sya may kasalanan at makikita ng buong mundo na masama.
ayaw ng pinas kasi matatalo sila at sila lalabas na masama.
china may waterhose at hinaharangan ang gunboat ng pinas so since hindi makaraan ang gunboat ng pinas no choice sila kung hindi tumalikod at umuwi sa palda ng nanay ni duterte.
end of story. that’s it? yun ang mangyayari. pero pag ang fighter planes ang binili nag pa panic ang mga chinese. kinontak nga nila lockheed martin (gumagawa ng F16s kung san bumibili ang pinas ng F16) tinawagan ng china ang lockheed martin wag daw tayong bentahan ng F16s e. mismong china nga mismo alam nila na pag nag acquire ang pinas ng F16 may deterrent na tayo laban sa kanila. sky is the limit no more. mas kinakatakutan nila ang fighter planes kesa warships.
it can drop sidewinders to any chinese warships at sea and drop JDAMs on the islands. it is also fast and agile and can patrol a wider area.
kaya bobo ang idol mong si duterte. pati ikaw nahawa na. pakantot mo na lang nanay mo kay duterte tutal naniniwala ka naman sa kanya e hahahahahaha
hahaha ang haba non.. short answer lang sa akin kasi ipon gamit ko li it ng mga key.. mas less maintenace ang gunboat yon lang ang ma afford ng pinas… isang f16 parang isang dosinang gunboat nayan… kong masira kahit isang F16 baka ang pag ayos non limang gunboat na… at magkano ang isang missle ng F16???? baka katombas ng Isang missle isang gunboat na… second hindi tayo nakipag gera sa china hindi natin kaya ang china..kahit 1000 na F16 payan wala parin tayong laban sa kanila.so whats the use for buying an F16 3rd ang gunboat pwedi yan ma gamit sa mindanao sa sulo tawitawi for patrol para sa mga abusayaf… maraming island ang pinas so mas ma pakinabangan ang gunboat.. after sa issue sa spratly
tama bah
bago makatutok ng armas ung mga gunboat, pinalubog na un ng mga missiles ng F16. mas mahal nga ang F16 pero mas may advantage un sa speed of deployment, weapons, sensors, altitude advantage, tech. etc. ang gunboat kahit marami pag nadaanan ng isang fighter jet at napalubog, pde nang gawing entry point un ng ibang forces na gustong mag invade, bago pa makaresponde ung ibang gunboat, pasok na ung mga nag iinvade. ang F16 kung kailangan i deploy sa isang area matagal na cguro ang 10minutes bago sila makarating dun
ang tanong din kc dito ilan ba ang kaya natin bilhin?And how more bullets that we have?
hahaha.. realistic yong F-16 gamitin like sa mamasapano massacre… yong fallen saf if na bigyan yon ng air def kahit isa lang may marami sanang survivor nila..: mababawAsan sana yong mga bata na nawalan ng Ama.. pero against sa china????? are you making a joke? or nag iisip kaba???? hahaha anong kalaban laban natin… main weapon natin ay deplomatic solution lang.. bibig bonganga lang hindi armas.. second if gyera ang nasa otak mo!!!! ang advantage natin is ground troops lang kasi mas expience ang AFP natin kay sa military ng mga china…. 50 years na gyera sa mindanao malamang season na ang army natin sa gyera… kaya kailangan sila ng warboat para ma e deploy at mag patrol sila sa spratley or sa bejing china for suicide mission.. hahaha F-16???? ang mahal ng jet fuel ang gastos kaya nyan if gawing pang patrol sa sprtley…hehehe
Mga leftist at pro communist lang ang sumasang-ayon kay Ka Digong. Hinde natin kaya ang Chinese Military for sure pero dapat meron tayong deterrent force.
before idiots comment please read the fucking post before you react!!! it said to PATROL the SEA not to FIGHT and WAR on the SEA MORON”S
F16Vs is a good investment yes but to patrol the fucking 300,000km2 size of PH + 200 nautical miles EEZ how can you patrol that size using 2 or even 1 squadron of F16Vs!
you gonna bomb those ships? if F16Vs found a ship on our EEZ they will radio it to get out of our EEZ or else we gonna fire a missiles, is that what you think the way of defending our EEZ? if yes then you are wishing for our annihilation. you gonna send let say 1 squadron of F16Vs to patrol our sea then ask yourself HOW MUCH will the fuel cost, maintenance cost, etc, and sigurado ako sasabihin nyo hindi naman dapat araw araw mag patrol then you are one of the stupid filipino, patrolling our sea needs a 24/7 commitment, duterte is suggesting a PANGMATAGALANG solusyon to tackle illegal fisherman, SHIPS, etc that violates our EEZ, hindi ung F16Vs na once a month lang kung lumipad, ung mga utak munggo na ang ginagawa lang eh mag CoC mag FB at tumambay please dont react or even comment cause you are not helping resolve national issues. goin to war vs china is fucking impossible even with the help of allies!
even if they give us tons of weapon still we goin to lose the war why? we are not fucking ECONOMIC stable, another factor to determine how much we can last @ war.
if war sparks our PESO will go DOWN drastically investor will go out of the country and we are on our own, we cannot borrow money @ world bank our allies can do is just talk, send us aids but not go to war vs china! ofcourse they will protect their own assets and country so stop using drugs and get back to reality and face the fucking truth!
natumbok mo..ewan ko ba pano nag-iisip yung ibang tao dito..kung makapag commnet lang..kala nila CoC yung ginagawa nila..hhahaha
hindi nya natumbok. Wala syang alam walang alam si duterte at wala ka ding alam.
ewan ko ba pano kayo nag iisip. makapag comment lang kayo.
Ni hindi ko nga alam yung CoC na yan e.
pag sinabi ba ni duterte na walang alam na tumalon ka sa bangin gagawin mo? tas sasabihin mo “kasi sinabi ni duterte mas mainam na tumalon ako sa bangin e makakalipad daw ako”
yeah ganun kayong katanga hahahaha pathetic beings
Ang husay mo Christian f***k y*o*u and you adyler.
Takot ang mga tsekwa sa F-16’s. LOLZ
do you think its realistic???? sa current situation ng philippines..
better equipped for the worst to come..protect ph airspace
I know we need to modernize or military … but the purchase of F-16 should not have been our top priority. Mayor Duterte suggested that gunboats should have been bought instead because these are what we need right now to protect our interest in South China sea. Bago sana tayo bumili ng F-16, dapat gunboats muna, wala pa nga tayong enough gunboats to patrol our South China sea territories, bumili na tayo ng F-16. Hindi natin ito pwedeng gamitin kasi pag ginamit natin ito, gagamit din ang China ng kanila. Pag gumamit ang China ng jet fighter nila … ano kaya mangyari sa dalawa nating F-16? Dapat alamin muna na natin ang ating priorities. Pag handa natayo, saka na tayo bumili. DU30 2016!!!
what kind of gunboats are you saying? gunboats are on the past ..it is WW2 era.Frigates LCS & destroyers and missiles are now use,those guns 120mm & 76mm are for secondary use purposes..could you tell a model what kind of warplane they will be using by china in case? F16 still used by 26 countries including USA..It has many variants like F16 C/D,it has a speed at sea level at mach 1.2 & speed at a mach 2 at high level.it carries various armaments like side winder,air to air missile, air to ground,air to ship and carries smart bombs and even nuclear capable bombs.it has a1x20 mm gatling gun..Not exactly that we are buying this 2 F16 that we are going head to head at war with china.at least we could use this as for air & wps patrol..a second hand 1982 Italy Maestrale Frigate that carries missile cost at $200 million..but was cancelled by Gazmin 2012..an F!6 V cost at $18.8 million each..a squadron of that cost $225.6 million almost the price of 1 Frigate..a least the ang gobyerno my plano na ibalik ang lakas ng Airforce natin kasi now puro air lang walang force..Tinalo pa nga ang 5th Generation latest model ng Lockheed martin ang F35 sa mock combat in air sa F16..meron na rin tayong 2 brand new frigates ipinagawa sa sokor..
Hindi mo naintindihan yung sinabi ni digong. Bago tayo bumili ng F16 dapat gunboat muna walang sinabi si digong na wag natayong bumili ng F16. Ang gunboats kasi ang pinaka need natin ngayon dahil napapalibutan tayo ng karagatan. Bakit nakukuha ng china yung mga sakop natin, kasi wala tayong capacity na batayan yung karagatan natin dahil kulang tayo sa gunboats. Kita mo naman yung kumukuha at sumisira ng kayamanan natin sa dagat taiwan at chinese, himbis na mga pilipino ang makikinabang sa yaman dagat natin. Hindi pa tayo para sa gyera vs china ang F16 pang gyera lang yan, kaya himbis na hinamon natin ang china kausapin natin sa tamang proseso.
Hindi mo naintindihan yung sinabi ni digong. Bago tayo bumili ng F16 dapat gunboat muna walang sinabi si digong na wag natayong bumili ng F16. Ang gunboats kasi ang pinaka need natin ngayon dahil napapalibutan tayo ng karagatan. Bakit nakukuha ng china yung mga sakop natin, kasi wala tayong capacity na batayan yung karagatan natin dahil kulang tayo sa gunboats. Kita mo naman yung kumukuha at sumisira ng kayamanan natin sa dagat taiwan at chinese, himbis na mga pilipino ang makikinabang sa yaman dagat natin. Hindi pa tayo para sa gyera vs china ang F16 pang gyera lang yan, kaya himbis na hinamon natin ang china kausapin natin sa tamang proseso.
F-16V @ 18.8 million Each? Bargain talaga. Pero di yan ang totoong halaga. Saan mo nakuha yang pricelist mo?
may 18.8m na f-16 brand new made in china plastic ang makina 😀
actually for 12 F16s it’s almost $400 million.
$380+ million to be exact
Its not I’m opposing with you. It is really true we need those jet planes. but the question is will that makes china to think twice to attack us? (limited number of jet planes). Lets say he’s referring to a gunboat. he uses it in GENERAL WORD. meaning he isn’t referring to a NEW MODEL or and OLD MODEL. and if we think of it literally a BOAT with a GUN this will be easily understand (without opposing what means to the word gunboat – it maybe a Dreadnaught, frigate, Corvette, Cruiser etc. since we’ll be referring it to our modern knowledge warships “As expected”). Yes those mentioned ships are way – way too expensive but if you come to think of it its more worthy (purposely speaking) to have them rather than buying a jet plane. We could use this boats, ship, water vehicle etc whatever you want it to call. for many purposes. AND WHY THE HECK ARE WE GOING TO BUY ONE IF WE COULD MAKE ONE FOR OUR OWN. check google, Philippines is the 4th ship making country in the world. Its a benefit for us (we’re talking in the expenses and time) and you could see we could create one that is modern, we’ll equipped and budget ship that serves a lot purpose than buying 2 jet planes that can only carry 4 people.
tama po kau, hindi magdadalawang isip ang china kung dlawang MRF na eroplano ang ihaharap natin sa kanila. eh baka matawa pa cla pag isang tambak nang bangkang may baril o kaya isang desenteng destroyer lng ang iharap natin? pareho lng nman presyo nung tatlo, pili po kau, isang daan na wlang kwenta? 2 na katulad nung ginagamit ng iba dahil maasahan naman? o isang barko na mabagal? hindi nga po alam ni mayor duterte ung sinasabi nyang gunboat edi mas lalo cguro syang walang alam sa capabilities ng MRF jet na binili ng pilipinas. kung gagawa ng barko ang pilipinas mas okay, mas tipid din. pero ung mga eroplano bibilhin pa rin cguro natin tlaga sa ibang bansa unless magsimula ang pilipinas ng manufacturing plant at research dept. sa aviation field para makatulong satin.
(*nung time ni marcos naka set ang pilipinas para makapag launch ang pilipinas ng sarili nating space craft. kaso hindi nya nagawa dahil sa EDSA revolution. kung may makakapag revive sana ng mga plano nya, bka umunlad ulit ang pilipinas)
Lol nakajatawa kayong dalawa ni durerte. Inaakala nyo na mas madaling I monitor any area with sea ships? Lol mas madaling monitor ang mas malawak na area pag aircraft ang gamit mo. Wider range, you’re
Above, etc.
Gets mo? Natural Hindi. Magaral ka Ng military science and strategic malalaman mo na mas preferred Kasi mas malaki chansa Ng arcrafts kesa sa gunboats na Yan. Hindi sa pagandahan ang sinasabi namin. Sa effectiveness in combat and other roles.
Duterte not running for presidency 2016 thank God.
ikaw mikoy alonzo guzman please ung utak mo paganahin mo hindi puro shabu pinapairal mo sa utak mo. MONITOR the entire PH sea (200 nautical miles) using F16Vs ay potang ina mo MILYON-MILYON ang gagastusin mo just for 1 day tarantado. may magaral ka pang MILITARY SCIENCE and STRATEGY nalalaman eh potang ina ka anong military science sa pagpapalipad ng F16Vs to patrol sa 300,000 km2 na size ng buong bansa hindi pa kasama ang 200 nautical miles na EEZ ay pota nagbibilang ka ba? maliit ba sayo ang size na yan?
again china didnt send warplanes or fighter jets para kunin ang spratly’s island they just send GUNBOATS and SHIPS to harass and barricade spratly’s island and because we dont have any GUNBOATS to patrol our SEA’s ayos tinayuan na nila at inangkin ang lupa natin!!!
now tell me how can a 2 F16Vs patrol the entire sea of PH? they will run for how many hours? how much is the cost of each FLY/PATROL compare it to a simple gunships na sabi mo walang kwenta
gunships: agile, fast, fuel efficiency, cost less compare to F16Vs, maintenance cost lower than fighter jets, and also we can buy even a 100 of this gunboats to send on patrol, maitataboy ang mga illegal fisherman galing sa ibang bansa (means our own fisherman can now fish with pride and safe) so it means more food for us, more money for the government, and more stable economy
FIGHTER JETS (F16Vs)
currently 2 units palang, cannot patrol the entire PH sea, cant confront ships even banka why? potang ina ka nasa AIR nga dba panu nya babalaan ang mga banka or ships? you gonna tell me the pilot will lunch a missile? and destroy it? now your a moron you just want war, a war PH cannot win!!!
so stop commenting non-sense here and bragging about that military science and strategic na sabi mo pinagaralan mo tangina mo bumalik ka sa reality pota ka kakashabu mo feeling mo nasa outerspace ka at feeling mo mura ang fuel ng F16Vs at isa pa magbayad ka ng BUWIS para malaman mo!
yan ang resulta sa online games..yan sila mag-isip..baka pag patrol ng jet nayan di na makabalik..fuel hanggang san kaya?
Tama yan..yan din ang pananaw ko.
deplomasya nasubukan na ng maraming beses panahon na para bumili kahit luma kaysa wala kaya wag ka na papasinsin pa tumakbo ka na lang kung mananalo ka ewan ko lang sayo
Mayor Duterte,sometimes diplomacy is more effective when you can show some teeth. You are right tht we can’t fight war. Who wants war anyway. The purpose of buying some armaments even how limited, is to let the aggressors think twice before they violate our sovereignty….. in other word, deterrence.
EXACTLY what i’ve been trying to tell all these idiots here who thinks fighter planes are useless (of course that includes duterte).
But then again duterte is a hypocrite. He’s saying “diplomacy is more effective” when he himself kills and murders people. Where is the diplomacy there?
pag ganyan balik tayo sa pagiging alipin.. niwala tayong depensa at opensa… ano gagawin ng gobyerno paalila nalang nagawa na ng china ang gusto nila kasi mangmang ang military natin puro ngawa wala gawa…
something to think .how did the Iranians defend their naval territory? using gunboats with surface to air and surface to surface missiles. duterte is right F-16’s are expensive not to mention the maintenance cost and additional equipment like land-based radars etc.
if you want to win a war you must have airpower gunboats with missile doesn’t win you war to win a war you must control the sea the air and the ground he he he
I would like to agree with Rudival and add this famous line “Never Bring a Knife to a Gun Fight”.
That’s right never bring a knife to a gun fight. Never bring a gunboat to fight a fighter plane
Here’s something to really think about. How did Israel win their 7 days of war? With fighter planes of course. How did the US win the war in the pacific? With fighter planes. How did Japan crippled, attacked and killed so many people and destroyed so many SHIPS not some puny gunboats? Lol fighter planes dude in pearl harbor. How did the us military kill so much of those hajis in the middle east? Of course fighter planes. And guess how Russia, Israel, turkey, china and the US do interventions in Syria and Iran and Iraq to fight Isis right now? That’s… AIRSTRIKES.
You control the skies you control the battlefield. Whether it be land sea or air.
for you mikoy alonzo guzman better do some research dumb ass WHOEVER CONTROL THE SEA CONTROL THE WORLD bobo hindi SKY tanga wag kang mag feeling matalino dito tanga. tandaan mo 71% ng earth water wag kang tanga ung mga sinasabi mo na japan,US etc wag kang bobo japan lost the war hindi dahil sa warplanes wag kang bobo magbasa ka tanga napakatanga mo hayop ka US win war @ pacific dahil sa warships gago (PACIFIC NGA DBA so DAGAT)wag kang tanga ulit, planes(warplanes) wont help much in event of war example gusto mo?
china vs america you gonna tell me na china will fly bombers and warplanes from china to US? gago ubos na fuel non gago at makikita un using radar gets mo na? they will use SHIPS to carry fire power. tangina anong utak ba meron ka ha.
thats why US got 20+ aircraft carrier and tons of destroyer, frigates etc bakit? fighter jets will do best in air defense Dog fights etc, but to bomb a warships? fuck off masyadong sophisticated na ang mga warships ngaun compare to world 1 and 2 ships.
pero ngayon may mga anti aircraft na.
Duterte wants a broom to ride with cause theres more mangkukulam in davao 😀
really?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BEST COMMENT EVER! LOL
natawa ako dun lol
yep daming mangkukulam sa davao
Gunboats will have no chance against chinese navy or airforce. better to have an F16 rather than our present aircraft.
Hindi mo naintindihan yung sinabi ni digong. Bago tayo bumili ng F16 dapat gunboat muna walang sinabi si digong na wag natayong bumili ng F16. Ang gunboats kasi ang pinaka need natin ngayon dahil napapalibutan tayo ng karagatan. Bakit nakukuha ng china yung mga sakop natin, kasi wala tayong capacity na batayan yung karagatan natin dahil kulang tayo sa gunboats. Kita mo naman yung kumukuha at sumisira ng kayamanan natin sa dagat taiwan at chinese, himbis na mga pilipino ang makikinabang sa yaman dagat natin. Hindi pa tayo para sa gyera vs china ang F16 pang gyera lang yan, kaya himbis na hinamon natin ang china kausapin natin sa tamang proseso.
Loooool Hindi mo tlaga naintindihan ang ibig naming sabihin no? Kesho ngayon or kahit kelan man mas may chansa na manalo ang fighter planes kesa sa mga pathetic na gunboats na Yan.
Lol nakajatawa kayong dalawa ni durerte. Inaakala nyo na mas madaling I monitor any area with sea ships? Lol mas madaling monitor ang mas malawak na area pag aircraft ang gamit mo. Wider range, you’re
Above, etc.
Gets mo? Natural Hindi. Magaral ka Ng military science and strategic malalaman mo na mas preferred Kasi mas malaki chansa Ng arcrafts kesa sa gunboats na Yan. Hindi sa pagandahan ang sinasabi namin. Sa effectiveness in combat and other roles.
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o cge kwentahin mo yung fuel na itatagal na eroplano..
9 to 11 hours of being in midair before it has to refuel once with no afterburner (which is not needed to patrol spraty’s islands. 3,000 miles.
The USAF factsheet says that the F-16 has an internal capacity of 7,000 pounds of fuel, with a 12,000 pound capacity with two external fuel tanks, whereas the Aviation Photo Album, the F-16 C carries 6,972 lbs of fuel, about 1,073 gallons and the F-16 D configuration carries 5,785 lbs or 890 gallons.
And two external stores of 12,000 pounds of fuel.
which of course extends the hours of operation from 10 hours to possibly 20 to 24 hours without refueling. But of course the pilot needs to HTB so he can get some shuteye.
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also,
patrolling/guarding an Area of Operations does not mean going out everyday nor every sunday like police officers does on the streets. The military are using radar to patrol it and when they see a blink on radar they scramble fighter planes. That is far more useful and effective than sending warships to an area of 200 miles. Warships will get there in 4 to 5 days but with fighter planes they can get there in just an hour or so. Since sending warships to the disputed area is very ineffective against the chinese, fighter planes are more of a deterrent than warships.
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o sige ikaw naman. kwentahin mo kung gano ka katanga at gano ka retarded si duterte. dali kwenta na! LMFAO
Ang galing mo Lester para kang expert F***K Y*O*U.
the F-16’s can be used for defense purposes. we do not say that these 2 F16’s will be used to attack china. that’s impossible. at least when chinese migs intrude our mainlands the F-16’s can still be very effective in neutralizing the migs as compared to gunboats.
do you think may chance ang tatlong f16 mo sa jet fighter ng china??? hahaha point dito hindi makipag gyera kasi wal tayong kalaban laban.. kaya deplomatic solution kailangan.. at mas realistic if warboat kasi affordable, accessable and attainable.. maka pag patrol tayo sa boundary natin sa karagatAn.. at mas malawak pa kay sa F16 ilang hours lang pweding maka patrol then back to base oli para mag refuel.. so mas gastos..
basahin mo mga sinabi ko sayo sa taas para maintindihan mo kahit na 10 IQ lang meron ka
Looks like the Mayor have some researching to do.
Lockheed Martin’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter has been having a terrible time of late. In June, War is Boring journalist David Axe obtained a report detailing the F-35’s performance—or lack thereof—as a dogfighter. The F-35 went up against an F-16 in January of this year and, with the exception of a single ‘Hail Mary’ move, was soundly outclassed by the older plane.
The test pilot flying the F-35 makes it very clear that the new jet, even in its ideal configuration without any external stores, was no match against a Block-40 F-16C in a less-than-ideal configuration with a pair of under-wing fuel tanks:
Tama ka, pero how sure are you na kayang makikipag sabayan ng F-16 sa Chinese Made na J-11 or J-15, or better yet Su-30MKK? Those jets have BVR capability beyond F-16s. And besides, even if you face them in WVR, you can still be outnumbered by PLAAF
china dont care about how good our F16’s perform.. worst scenario they can take it down with there numbers
Mayor Duterte, di lang po para pambantay sa china ang f-16 kundi para din po yan sa mga kaibigan nyong rebelde. lol. XD
actually there was an article that the Lockheed martin which is the newest and most sophisticated plane of the USA was no match for f-15, the reason is that Lockheed martin is relaying on computers for maneuvering whilst f-15 can be freely controlled and maneuvered by its pilot 😀 …… but dont believe everything the internet says
you mean g-limiter. Very common yan sa Fly-by-wire systems. Problem with FBW aircraft is that they are unstable by design and needs constant attention of flight computers. Naturally, flight computers will set some limits to prevent dangerous maneuvers that might be useful in actual ACM.
ohhh i see so kung tatangalin ung limiters na un ehh wlang wla ung f-15??
China’s fighter planes cannot even fly close to Japan’s air space,..once they are detected, Japan’s F-16’s are instantly in their rear view mirror,..
Actually the JASDF prefers to use their F-15Js for Air Intercepts because they’re faster and have better radar. They also don’t use the F-16 much as much as they have their local variant with upgraded specs, the Mitsubishi F-2 “Viper Zero”.
Well said.
Finally someone who knows what he’s talking about
And this is why ladies and gentlemen, Duterte is a moron.
Gunboats and shits wouldn’t matter too, as China is several years ahead of us in armaments. We are purchasing interceptors as a means to only delay Philippines’ total destruction to give time for the US congress to decide whether to help the Philippines or not.
Sad yes, but that is our current situation.
The great thing about interceptors like F-16 is it can gun down bomber jets before it reaches PH soils. Gunboats are vulnerable to subs and battleships.
Of course the US will not cast the first stone, they need to appear as just giving us a helping hand. Should a war between PH and China starts, the US cannot afford not to help the PH, for instance, we have an ongoing treaty with the US for mutual defense, should the US not honor it, this would put into question the existence of NATO and other mutual defense treaty the US has.
i dont think bomber jets fly alone. those f-16’s will be gunned down earlier by their jets same as our gunboats sunk by subs and battleships. and why would they spend for a sub and battleship just to sink a gunboat??? delaying tactics? you don’t use a good armament to delay an attack, you use cheap pawns. otherwise you lose your defense even before the actual war that you’re expecting. mr. intelligent guy who thinks of others as moron because they share their own opinions, you’re only eyeing for the war. how about the other things that needs to be defended?
as for the funcionality’s sake, gunboats can do more than the jets as per priorities of our nation. although yes, we do need those jets somehow.
anung gagawin nung mga gunboat na un? bka magsilubog un pag bumagyo? tapos ung mga personnel na gagamit nun? magkakape lng? mas malaking area ang kayang i cover ng F16 nang mas mabilis pa kesa 30 gunboats.
o cge F-16 the best..pero ang tanong pano yung anti aircraft defence
see yan ang patunay na hindi mo alam ang sinasabi mo. no offense sa sinabi kong yan pero patunay talaga yan.
SAM (Surface-to-Air Missiles) ay maka counter ng missile flares of military aircrafts.
ang F16 ay equipped with flares.
gunboats can only defend our waters and the coasts near the sea.. gunboats cannot defend all the lands inside, which these areas can be easily accessible to the F-16’s thus it can defends better than the gunboats.
sana otak genius lahat ng pinoy gaya namin ni duterti.. answer ko basahin monalang ang reply ko sa ita as
hahaha so if malaking area ang a cover ng F16… anong magagawa kong o occupayin ng china ang lahat na island??? bobombahin ng f16 ng pinas???? hahaha if yon ang mangyayari mag pagawa kana ng bunker sa bahay mo kasi o olanin kayo dyan ng mga bomba ng china….. walang gerra na mangyayari olol yong idea na kailangan ng F16 para defense laban sa china… ang gawin ng government dahil atin yang spratly e bigay yan sa mga mangingisda mga badjao ipa occupy yan nila para may settlers don na pinoy at sa ganon hindi yon ma occupy ka agad ng china kasi my civilian yon ang tama hindi bibili ng F16 laban sa china kasi walang kalaban laban tayo…
Loooool Hindi mo tlaga naintindihan ang ibig naming sabihin no? Kesho ngayon or kahit kelan man mas may chansa na manalo ang fighter planes kesa sa mga pathetic na gunboats na Yan.
Lol nakajatawa kayong dalawa ni durerte. Inaakala nyo na mas madaling I monitor any area with sea ships? Lol mas madaling monitor ang mas malawak na area pag aircraft ang gamit mo. Wider range, you’re
Above, etc.
Gets mo? Natural Hindi. Magaral ka Ng military science and strategic malalaman mo na mas preferred Kasi mas malaki chansa Ng arcrafts kesa sa gunboats na Yan. Hindi sa pagandahan ang sinasabi namin. Sa effectiveness in combat and other roles.
And as for you. I can tell you don’t even know what you’re saying. If you have served any military. It’s common knowledge that fighter planes are more effective and can do more than just mere gunboats. You’re an amateur you don’t know anything about military science. The Chinese military won’t be sending submarines and ships to take out a gunboat, they’ll be sending fighter planes. Gunboats of the Philippines whether new or old cannot do anything about China’s MiGs. We don’t have any surface to air. Therefore a F16 has more chance to intercept a Chinese MiG.
hahaha chong realistic chong please!!!!! and kindly e base yong argument mo sa current situation ng philippines… kaya gunboat para maka patrol ng malawakan ang mga navy natin sa spratley…if fighter jet ilang oras lang yan maka patrol?? back to base ka agad yan para mag refuel… diba mas gastos… hindi tayo makipag gyera sa china kasi kahit nakapaG aral kapa ng military science wala pa rin yang silbi sa missle at mga bomba sa china… deplomatic solution kailangan natin.. wala tayong kalaban laban.. sana hindi ka military pulis navy airforce kasi hirap naman walang common sense ang mga alagad ng batas sa philippines..nakahiya..maraming moron sa AFP, Navy pulis natin..
hahahahaha chong realistic yun chong!!!!! magisip isip ka nga!!!!!
chaka base yung argument ko sa current situation ng philippines men mahina lang utak mo kaya hindi mo ma gets. magaral ka nga
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o eto mga ibang comment ko sa ibang taong tanga katulad mo share ko din sayo.
9 to 11 hours of being in midair before it has to refuel once with no afterburner (which is not needed to patrol spraty’s islands. 3,000 miles.
The USAF factsheet says that the F-16 has an internal capacity of 7,000 pounds of fuel, with a 12,000 pound capacity with two external fuel tanks, whereas the Aviation Photo Album, the F-16 C carries 6,972 lbs of fuel, about 1,073 gallons and the F-16 D configuration carries 5,785 lbs or 890 gallons.
And two external stores of 12,000 pounds of fuel.
which of course extends the hours of operation from 10 hours to possibly 20 to 24 hours without refueling. But of course the pilot needs to HTB so he can get some shuteye.
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also,
patrolling/guarding an Area of Operations does not mean going out everyday nor every sunday like police officers does on the streets. The military are using radar to patrol it and when they see a blink on radar they scramble fighter planes. That is far more useful and effective than sending warships to an area of 200 miles. Warships will get there in 4 to 5 days but with fighter planes they can get there in just an hour or so. Since sending warships to the disputed area is very ineffective against the chinese, fighter planes are more of a deterrent than warships.
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diplomacy is out of the question kasi AYAW NGA ng china! ano ba ang hindi nyo ma gets dun? AYAW NGA E. so diplomacy is out of the question. bakit sa tingin mo nag i intervene na ang US, UN, Japan and Australia? tsk tsk tsk hina ng utak mo chong e!!!!! hahahaha
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chaka hahaha hindi ako AFP or PNP ng pinas kasi WALA naman ako sa pinas e.
I may be Filipino but I’m American dude.
chaka isa pa kung sa tingin mo walang common sense ang sinasabi namin, then talagang retarded ka. kasi LAHAT ng mga pinagsasasabi ko hindi rocket science. HINDI MAHIRAP INTINDIHIN.
ang KELANGAN LANG ay COMMON SENSE na WALA KA. kakahiya ka naman….. lol
wala kang ka common sense common sense tas lakas ng loob mong makipag debate with no grounds? dahil lang idol mo si duterte naniniwala ka na sa kanya E WALA DING ALAM YANG SI DUTERTE!
He is a moron and so are YOU.
ang hina ng otak mo chong!!!!grra ang nasa isip mo otak na may ascaris… alam mo ang capability ng pinas…… wala ng jose rizal ngayon na magpagpaka martyr realistic ang aming otak ni duterte the same kami mga genius… wala ng tao ngayon na sasalo ng mga canyon at missile ng china.. kong hindi makoha sa osapan then let the nternational community decide kasi ang pinas walang kakayahan kahit mag donate kapa ng isang aircraft carrier …. yon ang realistic…. kaya sabi ni duterte bigyan tayo ng train kapalit sa island na ino occupy nila.. pwedi din silang mag rent.. hahahaha
dalawang F16????? malamang tinatawanan lang ang pinas ng china…. hahaha at least may effort….. hahaha hina otak mo chong gerra ang nasa isip otak na may ascaris… useless yang F16 nayan malamang yong mga F16 nayon nasa noynoy airport ginawang display para sabihin na may bagong pangdigma ang pinas hahaha.. pero advantage chong alloy ang airplane so hindi rust kasi walang pang gasolina ang gobyerno chong,,,, nasa bulsa lahat na pera…
logic ginamit namin ni duterte chong otAk parang einstein ito….. alam natin na may international tribunal tayo so lets the community decide.. so what if walang gerra na mang yayari anong gawin ng government sa F16 nayan???? gamitin sa mindanao???? isang bomba lang million na… at yong bobombahin ay nipa hut bahay kubo hahaha isipin mo chong… at walang gerra na mangyayari between sa china at philippines.. defend na magagawa natin hanggang salita lang yan dahil wala tayong kalaban laban
hina talaga takbo otak mo… amin ni duterte ang bilis naka isip ka agad sa future!!!!!! hahaha otak pang harvard kaya kami ni duterte
tama bago mapabagsak ng F-16 natin sabog na sa anti aircraft ng china..which carries by navy boat..ewan ko ba mga taong ito makapag comment lang..di nag iisip..CoC pa more
They launch SAM to the Philippines’ F16, F16 pilot deploys flares, circles around (at this time Philippine F16 has been engaged and are in the right to defend himself against the aggressor)
circles around deploys ASM (Air-to-Surface Missiles) to the navy boat that carries your anti aircraft from china.
BOOM end of story. Winner? F16 fighter planes.
ewan ko ba pano ka mag isip makapag comment lang. d ka nagiisip. CoC pa more (kung ano man yang CoC na yan lol)
SHABU PA DAVAO CITY! SHABU PA! wala kang alam e
Di mo tlga naintindihan ang ibig sabihin ni duterte.. Ang kailangan natin NGAYON ay ung madaling mag monitor ng mga karagatan natin like gunboats.. Hindi natin kailangan ung F 16 na un.. Kasi hindi nman natin kayang gyerahin ung china.. Kasi halata nmnang talo tayo.. Gets mo? Parang iniisip mo kasi parang mas maganda pang gyera ang f16 kesa sa gunboats.. Oo.. Tama ka.. Maganda nga.. Pero hindi tayo sasabak sa gyera na alam nating talo tayo.. Sana nagets mo na sinabi nya..
Loooool Hindi mo tlaga naintindihan ang ibig naming sabihin no? Kesho ngayon or kahit kelan man mad may chansa na manalo ang fighter planes kesa sa mga pathetic na gunboats na Yan.
Lol nakajatawa kayong dalawa ni durerte. Inaakala nyo na mad madaling I monitor any area with sea ships? Lol mad madaling monitor ang mad malawak na area pag aircraft ang gamit mo. Wider range, you’re
Above, etc.
Gets mo? Natural Hindi. Magaral ka Ng military science and strategic malalaman mo na mas preferred Kasi mas malaki chansa Ng arcrafts kesa sa gunboats na Yan. Hindi sa pagandahan ang sinasabi namin. Sa effectiveness in combat and other roles.
tumpak..pero ang tanong paano yung gunboat ng china na equip ng anti aircraft
Mga feared (kuno) gunboats of China is equipped with wayward elevators that popped upwards, instead of missiles (firecrackers), hehehe.
lol natawa ako sayo
Hehehe. Kasi sir, may mga takot sa Chinese armaments. Paano ako matakot eh, mga elevators at mga escalators nga, hindi ma perfect, missiles pa kaya? Kung totoo naman na nakakaw sila ng western missile technology, may duda pa rin ako, low quality China eh, hehehe.
basahin mo yung sinagot ko sayo sa taas tungkol jan sa puny anti aircraft mo lol
SU 24 of Russian was gunned down by an F16D of Turkey. Where was this famed and scarEd jet? J-11 and the well publicised J30 of China can’t even fly off the ground because of its problems.
If we have these F16Vs combined with our capable pilots, we surely can defend our territory.
I understand mayor Duterte’s reaction.. Our AFP has its own plans and maybe the reason why we bought only two is for training purpose to prepare our military pilots for more high end jets to come and at the same time serves as a patrol aircraft to the our West Philippine sea and interceptors too, The aircraft has many uses.. We cannot just say its too old, we must remember that the reason of its longevity is because its upgradable it’s the swiss army knife of jet fighters.. Mayor Duterte, with all due respect.. Jets and gunboats is very essential to our military but time is of the essence and a quick response time is very much needed every time there are trespassers.. Frigates are an intimidating site for intruders too but they cannot be there in minutes not like the jets that can be there in minutes and can intimidate also. And the frigates, they too can follow where the sighting took place.. But for now with limited budget every piece of military asset is essential for the reservation and protection of sovereign land
true that f16’s are one hell of a jet but honestly it dont matter at all….. china continues to build on those island even american warships are there . how much more 2 f16’s? and i know phil will buy some more but when?
off-course we cant not go to war instead we are preparing for a modern defense system. it is nice that there are being upgraded to some department of our country than nothing. Maybe Mayor DUTERTE are just creating sound for political purpose.
Additional aircraft and other upgrades in the military hardware are morale boosters for the soldiers.
We avoid war with China if possible, but what shall we do if China will come and invade us in the future? Let us start now acquiring more war armaments in preparation for emergency situation. Like other nations do. in time of peace they’re preparing for war.
It’s better to have a pair of F-16 and add some more in the future. We will not go to war with China but we need a little respect from them. If we will not act now, when? When they’ve already occupied the entire spratlys…
Even though its older F16’s are still one of the best air to air fighters because of their agility. There are reports that it defeated Americas newest fighter the f-35 in dog fight exercises. The problem is probably the newer fighters have longer ranged missiles that can can lock on from miles away, We also need to increase our ground to air defence with better radars and surface or ship mounted missile systems.
F 16 no match sa chinese jet fighter? kadakong sayop mayor!
maybe we can use duterte’s mouth to shoot the chinese agressors……..
Huh?! This F-16V can much any other fighter jets out there. F-16V can detect enemy in a dog fight as far as 70km. It is far better than any other fighter planes.
GUNBOATS to chase SMUGGLERS and DRUG COURIERS in the open seas.
Sila ang mahigpit na kalaban ng Bayan hindi ang China.
Yan ang ibig sabihin ni DU30. Gets NYO!!!!!!!!!!!
f16’s are constantly upgraded they belong to the US but once sold they remove mostly those upgrades and sell it to near stock. and people talk too much about specs and armaments carried by f16’s the big question is… until when can the phil be able to maintain such jets? we cant even maintain properly a turbo prop airplane how much more a Jet… and gun boats cant do anything in the sea against china’s frigates….
Lalong big mistake kung ibubulsa lamang ang pambili.
i have a missile manual here from russia, we could build missiles much effective and we have a lot of resources in our nation.. diba?
kelangan ko ng manpower tsaka budget from good samaritans.
Phil air force officials never fail to surprise me with their stupidity. US jets are known for their expensive maintenance cost. Imagine the maintenance cost of a fleet of 2nd hand 30+ year old jets. No problem for rich uncle sam, but a head ache in the making for juan dela cruz. These generals always opt to buy 2nd hand american technology from the 70s and 80s, BECAUSE THEYRE NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN THE BEST DEAL FOR OUR TAX MONEY, INSTEAD THEY ALWAYS LOOK FOR THE BEST 2ND HAND DEALERS because these american dealers can give them 2nd hand discounts plus kickback money.
Fact of the matter is brand new RUSSIAN MIGS cost just the same amount as our korean Trainer jets but are just as capable and as lethal as F16s. Best of all, unlike US jets, russian jets are built rugged and can do with minimal maintenance.
So why do we keep buying 2nd hand US stuff? Simple.. Cause filipino officials could careless about the Philippines so long as they can get in on the deal. Sobrang corrupt talaga ang pilipino. Also, USA likes to sell us their obsolete technology because that would keep us from modernizing to the extent that we wont need them anymore. They need the phil because of its strategic location. USA wants us to continue relying on their brand new technolgy cause that would mean they can keep their ships at our bay. We could look to the russians for state-of-the-art brand new military hardware that are cheaper to procure and cheaper to maintain than US 2nd hand technology.
We dont need 2nd hand f16s.. We need a central radar system that will monitor all of our shores 24/7. It will also keep intruders from entering our established radar space. and for dealing with threats from the sky, surface-to-air missiles are more than capable, much cheaper to aquire and low on maintenance.
An open question to all PAF officials out there.. Why do you keep insisting on buying old/2nd hand US technology that are almost obsolete? When we can look to the soviets to provide us with state-of-the-art BRAND NEW military equipment and vehicles that are cheaper, reliable and easy to maintain? Seriously.. I know PMA is no Westpoint.. But if their graduates can say they have the best military minds in the country, with full integrity, then how come no general is actually pursuing on modernizing our military without the help of the USA
Look to the “Soviets”? Where are you logged-in from, a time-travel computer room in 1990? Wow, such great technology, tell your friends “2015 says ‘Hi!'”
most people were just excited about the jets. how many jets did the paf purchased? how many gunboats could we have purchased with the same amount? were talking about defense and not just a show off. yung iba eh utak “common-balikbayan” pakitang gilas kahit wala naman talaga. (not totally generalizing though)
We already have F-50 so its not nothing at all. Gripen of SAAB fighter jets is better than F-16 even USA and Japan did not recommend the Philippines to have F-16 as its maintenance is very costly compare to modern fighter jets and F-50 is the best choice so far but the Philippines is planning to acquire gripen not F-16. Though the government is planning for F-16 st least Duterte warned them in advance and its up to think which is better and why
i go with f16s… flexible and upgradable platforms… still in service and for sure gunboats are no match.. maybe missile boats …from my experience from the gulf… 🙂
Duterte was saying better buy something that can be used to fix internal conflict rather than investing on something you cannot use. Buy F-16 to fight China? Do you know how many F-16 we need in order to beat China? Better invest on boats as defense counter-measures on the sea since our boundaries between other countries are waters.
sa pagkaka intinde ko, ang sabi ni DIGONG, hindi pa prioridad ang pag bili ng ganyan. sa ngayon kelangan nating e salba ang iba pa nating yaman or teritoryo na balak agawin ng iba. hindi kayang bantayan palagi ng dalawa or apat na f-16 ang buong pilipinas. sa loob ng 24 oras. sa tingin nyo ba ibabalik sa atin ng china ang inagaw na nila dahil nakabili na tayo ng F-16?
Sang ayon po ako sa pananaw nyo.
mukang alagad din ng china tong duterte na to!! di halata!!!
BRAVO!!! Ang gagaling nyo!
pota ano ba mga nag comment d2? basahin nyo at intindihin ang SINASABI hindi comment ng comment potang ina for all those retards na nagsasabi na mas maganda ang F16 uu mas maganda pero ang sabi ni duterte GUNBOATS kasi pweding papuntahin sa ibat-ibang lugar sa bansa uu tama sya bakit?
1. fuel napakamahal ng fuel para paliparin sa buong bansa para lang mag PATROL sa karagatan
2. in an event of confrontation vs outsider (china,taiwan,indonesia, singapore etc..) hindi pweding magpaputok agad ang F16 cause it will result in total war and annihilation of PH
3. you think our allies will help us if we do the 1st move? NO and TOTALLY NO. nasa batas yan magbasa kayo mga bobo puro kayo TEXT at FB mga tanga
4. duterte said para BANTAYAN ang karagatan HINDI MAKIPAGBAKBAKAN sa karagatan mga gago
5. may nabasa rin ako d2 na whoever control the sky control the battlefield ulol bobo ka gago WHOEVER CONTROL the SEA CONTROL THE WORLD gago tangina mo bago ka mag COMMENT ng kabobohan e research mo muna gago. kaya inaagawa ng china ang mga DAGAT na nakapalibot sa kanila because of the simple fact na strategically capable ang mga isla malapit sa PH to lauch an attack againts counterparts country hindi nyo parin ma gets? potang ina kayo wag na kayo mag comment kung ako sa inyo mga gago.
6.duterte suggested for a GUNBOATS hindi para e-challenge ang other country but to PATROL the sea near us 200 nautical miles sea pag F16 pinalipad mo dyan MILYON-MILYON ang gagastusin ng bansa para lang sa isang araw ng PATROL, duterte suggest gunboats to PATROL SEA and help our fisherman na nahaharass ng ibang MALALAKING FISHING VESSELS hindi WARSHIPS mga tarantado
7. PH even to purchase 100 F16Vs wont help much! why? its not just a battle of the SKY also economic battle in an event of war you expect CHINA will send us tons of military assets like warplanes/ships/ etc. ITS A BIG NO!!! it will start in a simple STANDOFF, followed by economic sabotages, then missiles, and it will create chaos and breakdown of PH stocks and it will crippled PH money now how can you fly those F16Vs without money to spare? if really war sparks PH cannot borrow money why?world bank will not let a dying country to borrow more money, PH cannot repay.
8. before a country go to war, better resolved the national issues like poor, terrorist, lack of schools, traffic, crimes and TRAPO,CROCODILES,CORRUPT politicians. then in 10-20 years PH will regain its name (TIGER of ASIA)
this land (philippines) wil heal with the right president and i will not point names just fucking open your mind whoever read this.
Tama po kayo. We need Gunboats or large ships that can be sent to patrol and stay longer at sea to protect our fishermen and EZZ. Papaano po ba naagaw ng China ang bajo de masinloc at iba pang reefs? Gamit po ba nila ang makabagong fighter jets nila para itaboy ang mangingisda natin? Bakit po tayo di makapag re supply sa magigiting nating Marines sa Spratlys, gumamit po ba ang China ng jet fighters nila para itaboy ang maliliit nating barko para mag resupply? Sa ngayon po mas kailangan natin ng gunboats na nakakapag layag at nakakatagal sa ating mga isla at nakakatapat o kaya makipag gitgitan sa mga puting barko ng china. Pag sapat na po ito, saka na lang po tayo bumili ng fighter jets.
The F16 Viper is the latest version of the F16 … plus you will get the best training ever given to a fighter pilot in the United States. The Chinese can brag all they want but at the end of the day a well trained F16 pilot is more than equivalent to Chinese wannabe’s. If the Israeli Air Force will still retain their F16’s as their primary fighters even after acquiring the F35, what does that tell you.
“The one who controls the Air controls the war”. Mayor Duterte is a Good leader, but regarding this issue, I beg to differ. F-16’s (especially the V-version is one of the latest) are multi-role attack and intercept fighter aircraft. Its fast and maneuverable. Its is designed to gain Air superiority. Though its not a stealth aircraft, it’s overpowered engine to fuselage ratio will enable it to chase any aggressor or intruder who breached our territory. The Philippines needs F-16’s since our last fighter aircraft (F-5) was retired in 2006, due to our weak air defense we are prone to intrusions and bullying tactics being applied by China. The big area of the Philippines coupled with coastlines longer than the United States and China combined needs a fast reaction defense against intruders, and this will not be covered by Patrol Boats but by Fighter interceptors like the F-16’s or if we can afford it the Stealth F-35’s.
Meanwhile, The F/A 50’s are just light attack Trainer/Fighter aircraft, designed to be a stepping stone towards flying more advanced air superiority fighter aircraft e.g. F-16, F/A18, F-22, F-35 and the likes
Andami Bobo talaga dito, hindi nila naintindihan kailangan muna natin mag bantay para sa dagat would you think we could defeat china in just a piece of F-16 how about the maintenance cost would you think we have enough resource stupid at a finest and still we are relaying for uncle sum for now.
DC-16=F-16 not FA-50
Now we know what kind of brains are behind that face, estupi…..unbelievable.
jan tayo patay.. pag cia ang mananalo… d s pwde gun boat lang.. anong gun boat ang bilhin mo..? mas kailangan natin ang air power…at least may panghabol tayo at pang kontra man lang sa kanila
weeee i calculate mo nga gaano kalayo o ilang milya pabalik sa mainland..kung yang jet sinasabi mo?
dlikado pag makiapag negotiatioin lang cia..tapos joint exploration…???? hahaha patay tayo jan.. hindi kailangan ang joint exploration ha..dahil unang una… atin yan…atin..hindi sila kasali
He is correct. We just cannot survive an arms race against a superpower. 12 F16s cant stand a chance against China’s superior air-to-air and anti-air technology. These fighter planes are fools’ gold. We must look at a long term solution and diplomacy is the way to go. An actual stand-off or battle should be the last thing on our minds because it is not sustainable. Acquiring fighter planes and actually thinking we can stand a chance fighting with these new weapons is inefficient and short-sighted.
are we going to war that we need those?do you guys know how much money you need to spend to fly and maintain an F16 to patrol our seas 24/7?does our government have the budget for that as of now?
F16 can’t be deployed on perimeters longer especially on waters. Gun boat equipped with missiles can be deployed in boundaries at a given time even for a month. Gun boat can radio F16 if it needs help. China can send their jets to our water but most likely wala na silang gas pabalik. That’s how far China is. The reason they have fake islands.
kaya ayaw ni duterte bumili ng f16 gobyerno kasi halos lahat ka alyado ni duterte npa.. comunismo style kasi ni duterte maganda naman kasi tuwid na daan.. ang kagandahan sa f16 may mga smart bombs yan na pwedeng kargahan at ipin point ang kuta ng abusayaff isang laglag lang ng bomba ubos lahi ng abusayaff dahil sa night vision nitong f16. actually ang negative side lang ng f16 ay madaling maubusan ng gasolina. wala namang problema yan kasi ang gera lang na gagawin naten ay para sa abusayaff at ibang npa na klaban.. kaya problema dito ni duterte ayaw nya pabomba sa gobyerno ang npa kasi ka alyado nya..
Partyly wrong, and mostly right. a fighter jet does have a good advantage against moving sea and land targets, but in the case of a naval warfare, air-based attacks must have naval back up. Them fighter jocks would have to RTB when they are Winchester 0. Naval attacks are closely coordinated attacks, thus the need of more boats for us. We don’t have a naval carrier, nor an airbase in spratleys, thus the need to return to base every 15 minutes to replenish fuel and armaments. With Gunboats, Fuel is not much of a problem if they have a fuel barge near them. Like I said, if the war is a naval war, you must lead it with boats. Planes are just Air Support.
where is US when China started building the islands – no where, because we don’t want US (sinipa nga mga Nationalista kuno yung US Bases di ba – hint erap and party, are they called magnificent 13), later on we realize we can’t do anything with the land reef/shoal grabbing of china, so we lobbied (PNoy) sa US to extend us support (despite the opposition from some factions). Note, EDCA is still pending.
Even if we are armed ourselves, likely in less than an hour we’re done in an initial engagement. So the best bet we got are: get alliance from our long time friend (USA). We should have enough influence sa US, remember we have significant citizenship in USA, if Israel can influence Congress/Presidency why can’t we. Is it because the US do not trust us anymore as reliable friend (maraming hudas sa atin, ganun ba).
Since we’re a weakling, we cannot agitate China into real battle, so political diplomacy is also an option. This is politics, you smile with China while you ensure support from the USA. Who do you think can do this role from us?
One thing more, we cannot rely on UN, pagdating nang UN patay na ang kabayo (hint Ukraine, Syria, atbp). Israel did not depend on UN, they did it themselves (and lobbying at US too). If we actively lobbied with US probably those islands are not there, instead we rely on UNCLOS (while China created the islands). Obama is hesitant earlier but now nagising na, they cannot let China expand uncontestedly.
Let us demonstrate the we are a loyal friend to the US, after all, we have strong presence in the US (we could have been a US state had not of the Nationalista kuno on our side). You and I cannot deny that we are struggling managing ourselves even after more than 70 years – we keep on electing leaders who just exploit us (you already know who these are) or don’t know what to do to get us out of poverty and population explosion. We keep on electing celebrities who are just listeners at the congress or senado, kung may panukala man utak biya ika nga. Ngayon sa global politics baka daanin sa kantahan, iyakan, kwela, o shadow boxing. Kailangan matuto na tayo pumili nang lider natin.
bayan ko gising po.
PUTANG INA MO KA DIGONG PALIBHASA COMMUNIST KA!
Gunboats can not patrol a high seas all over the seas’ or else someone will loud laughing on us’ imagine gunboat scattered all over the seas against chinese warship with the large hose mounted on it” this is insane!
kaya bomili ng F16 si pinoy kasi!!!!!!!!!!! Na konsensya nayan sa ginawa nya sa fallen SAF 44 na hindi nya binigyAn ng Air support.. malamang if binigyan pa yon ng air support marami sana ang naka survive…
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Its not to fight china. Its for protecting the Philippines. di nmn natin talaga kaya makipag sabayan sa China when it comes to military power. Gunboats are not made for defending, it is more on offense not like jets that can do both. Pangit nmn yung inaatake na tayo ng kalaban na wala man lang pandepensa. Diplomacy is still our no. Weapon at ginagawa nmn ng gobyerno yun at alam nmn ng tao yun.
my punto si digong hayaan na ntin ang us ang tumapos jaan…
May be China will be threaten if he attempts to throw explicit words if ever he wins the polls like what he did in the past 20 years of being a mayor